This morning on "Starting Point with Soledad O'Brien," Americans for Tax Reform president Grover Norquist addresses whether President Obama and Congress can reach a compromise to avoid the fiscal cliff.
"There's a compromise to be made," Norquist says. "Maybe we don't get as much in spending restraint as the Republicans want. But raising taxes on, you know, a little bit doesn't solve the problem of the massive spending problem that we have."
Soledad asks Norquist if the Taxpayer Protection Pledges that many lawmakers have signed puts some Congress members in a tough spot for negotiation.
"The pledge is to the American people, and to the people of their state. We share the pledge with everybody in "Americans for Tax Reform." The pledge isn't to me, even though Vice President Biden says that from time to time. It's a pledge to the American people and a commitment when you come to Washington, we have a spending problem. You solve it by spending less," he says.
"The problem is too much spending. The problem is not that the peasants aren't sending enough money into Washington. We need to reduce the total spending and we do need more revenue," Norquist adds.
Soledad asks Norquist to clarify what he would suggest to President Obama and Congress to avoid what many expect would be crippling spending cuts and tax increases as a result of going 'over' the fiscal cliff.
"Exactly what Obama and the Democrats in the House and Senate did two years ago, extend all the tax rates two years," Norquist says.