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May 23rd, 2013
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HLN's "After Dark" host Vinnie Politan on Arias' fate: New jury may be selected to determine life or death for Arias
Host of HLN's "After Dark," Vinnie Politan, sheds light on day three of deliberations as Jodi Arias awaits her fate. "In Arizona, it's got to be unanimous for life or unanimous for death," Politan says. He says there is some sort of impasses as the jury has not yet reached a consensus, but he has "no idea what the split is, if it's one holdout or if it's 6-6."
It also isn't clear which way the jurors are swaying. "The bottom line here now is if they all cannot agree one way or the other, then what happens, believe it or not, is a new jury gets impanelled and they will determine that single issue...of life or death."
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Vinnie, Mr. Zimmerman and his attorneys have been soliciting donations for his defense since early in the case, and based on their updates have raised — and apparently spent — about $400,000 already!!! Its unbelievable to me, someone is accused of murder and "people" are sending him money to help get him off. What kind of message is that sending to Trayvon Martin's family? Their son was shot and killed, while screaming for help! A teen is dead. Doesn't anybody care? Trayvon was doing what we all teach our children to do when a "Stranger" approaches them and tries to stop them, we teach them to run away and yell, and if the "person" grabs them they should fight with all their might: kick, punch, bite, do what ever you can to get away. Trayvon did just that, he ran when Mr. Zimmerman yelled and started chasing him. But Mr. Zimmerman took it one step further, he had a gun and he shot Trayvon and killed him. Trayvon lived in that gated community, Zimmerman did not, so Mr. Zimmerman was also trespassing when he shot and killed Trayvon. I can honestly say this. if someone shot and killed my son, the killer would be going to the morgue and I would be going to prison.
To HLN "After Dark," I have two (2) questions: (1) Why doesn't the show periodically remind listerners of the excessively long number of days–45–it took before Zimmerman was arrested; and (2) Why hasn't Zimmerman been asked to replicate the voice that"s yelling for help. It would reveal that he could not duplicate that high pitched voice–because it was not him–but Trayvon Martin calling for help..
I was holding my opinion regarding Trayvon Martin & George Zimmerman but one thing that stands out for me so far, is if Trayvon videotaped two of his friends beating up a homeless guy, it shows very poor character & it shows that he could have been aggressive towards George. People who volunteer to watch their neighborhoods do it to help the police and help keep their neighborhoods safe. George had not been a fighter as far as I have heard & it seems that he was smaller than Trayvon. If Trayvon was a bully then the circumstances were perfect to pick on someone. I am curious to know how much damage Trayvon had to his fists compared to George because George said in the interrogation that he was trying to ward off Trayvon. If George was out to get Trayvon it seems to me that he would have pulled the trigger a lot sooner without getting punched in the nose & getting his head banged against a sidewalk – to me that is evidence of self-defence. I don't think the marijuana is a huge issue but then again, doesn't it make you a little paranoid? George thought there was a witness, has anyone come forward to tell what they had seen or are they afraid?
It is so easy to say for that judge (man) not to get angry with the jury. Let me ask him, if the victim was his BELOVED son, brother relative, best friend will he be reacting so cool and be taking the same advice? Do not forget in giving Arias death penalty, arias is not the victim. She is the perpetrator, travis was the victim. Where is the justice for Travis and his family?
so I see you have Judge Larry back tonight. I will no longer watch your After dark if he is on as the judge or for that matter anything else.Please stop using him. Use another judge.
If the jury comes back with first degree murder and they are a death penalty jury and then can't sentence jodi arias her to death, when they fill out the paperwork to be a juror, put a clause in their that can morally carry it out. If the juror can't do that, excuse him/her get another juror. Why do we always hear more about the ACCUSED than the VICTIM?... We make them more popular(talking about them all they time) than the VICTIM!!!!!
As much as I was hoping Arias would get the death penalty she didn't. I say give her Life without parole & throw away the key. How much more of the taxpayers money are we going to waste on this phyco. Even if she gets the DP it will never happen. So quit now & let us just forget about her that would be the worst thing that could happen to her. Next triAl,please!
America needs to put capital punishment/ death penalty on trial!!!
Today was a travesty ! Sentencing this evil woman to life without parole is giving her everything she wants – an audience, freedom to mix with the general population, she never has to worry about supporting herself, she can watch TV ... and the taxpayer must pay for all this ?? NOT GOOD ENOUGH !
Thanks for a great show 🙂
Jodi getting life would allow her more access to jail population, whereas being on death row she would be locked up for 23 hrs a day. I believe that might be why the Alexander family does not want her to get life; she will have too much freedom, which she does not deserve. How can a life imprisonment for aggravated murder sentence allow for so much freedom? They should still be locked up for 22/23 hrs a day.
What makes it ok for the defense to ask the jury not to "kill" Jodi? The jury is not "killing" anyone, but they were still asked that incredibly skewed and biased question. The prosecution is not able to ask the jury not to sentence her to death, but the defense can all but put it on the jury that they would be killing Jodi if they voted for the death penalty? I cringed when I heard it presented to the jury that way.
Please stop using Judge Larry. He is so unfair to Juan. Its almost like he is jealous of Juan's popularity. I will stop watching HLN if he continue's to be on your program. His voice is so grading on the nerves. Please just put him in the jail cell with Jodi==that should take care of him.
On todays verdict, I believe that the 8 that voted for death would not change their minds because the judge could have given life with paroll after 25 years or natural life. I would stick to death because she should not have the opportunity to get out. Not ever!
as far as the Jodi Arias trial...I am disgusted with the decision. I am from a state where there is 'death penalty' (Texas). Jodi was found Guilty for murder 1; not guilty for mental health issues, not for insanity..there is no remorse from her. For those of us that are following outside, she "ACTS" remorseful in the court room, but once behind bars she somehow has a friend tweeting for her selling her copied art (which i hope she does get sued for that). Oh and boohoo...she has to live in a small cell...that psycho has no remorse whatsoever...
Vinnie if you were my cellmate i could stay a night or two! 🙂
I don't get our justice system....shouldn't the majority rule? Let's say you have 11 jurors for death and one for life...that one person determines the hole case??? All states should have the same law...majority rules!
I am concerned that no one on you panel gives the 4 against death consideration that they believe the borderline personality disorder and Travis having sex with Jody while also converting her to mormonism (sex the day he baptized her) could be mitigating factors against death. After all, they did convict her of first degree murder.
All the jurors had to be capable to vote for the death penalty at jury selection, so, those 4 jurors must have had some kind of compassion with what Jodi said or did during this final phase. I would have been able to accept Life w/o parole, if I were one of the 8 for death jurors. It's a heck of a lot better than starting this phase over! The poor Alexander family!
I'm tired of hearing the death penalty and putting it on the jury's shoulders. The defendant put herself there. The only reason Jodi believes in forgiveness is because "she's" asking for it! Had that been HER brother rotting in a shower for 5 day would she be so generous with the forgiveness? If I were on the jury, I would have to quote Denzle in Man On Fire,
" Forgiveness is between them and God, Its just my job to arrange the meeting"
How can people not see mental illness in Jodi? Are we going to sentence people with mental health illnesses to death?If that is the case, why not place the people who saw that Jodi needed help on trial too for letting this happen. We have had to many people with mental health issues commit crimes because they did not get help before they committed the crime.
I am a French Canadian visiting friends in N.Y. state and I would like to know if you will able to find out what was in the sealed enveloppe(s). Thank you
Vinnie, will it be the same judge?
No justice, just exhaustion! From the Judge, to the Attorney's, to the Jury, to the Victim; there isn't
juistice because of TOO LONG A TRIAL AND JUST PLAIN EXHAUSTION!
Arizona has a flaw in their trial process that cannot deliver justice, only exhaustion!
The arias family was there to support her up to the day Jodi (tongue in cheek) pled for her life. I think when Jodi's family wasn't called up to plead for her life and then pulled out that T-Shirt trying to be a spokesperson for domestic violence, it was a direct and evil blow to her family as well as toward Travis. I think her family has thrown in the towel and realized she needed to meet her fate without their support. Kudos to them.
My prayers for continued strenght to the Alexander Family,hung jury I,can't believe it.
I think a law should be changed that requires the judge in a case to make the penalty decision instead of having a jury make such a difficult decision of giving a convicted first degree murderer "Life or Death". This happens over and over again with US jurors. Now the Alexander family have to endure their emotional hardships again while the smug little killer celebrates her victory. So sad people who say they can make a decision, "don't" in the end. That juror should have stepped down.... Just my thought from Canada.
Come on this is unbelievable hope next jury gets it right
WHEN THE NEXT JURY COMES IN ALL PICTURES AND TALK ABOUT TRAVIS AND ONLY TRAVIS SHOW ALL PICTURES OF HIM>>>>>>>>THAT WILL HURT ARIAS>>>>>>>ALL TRAVIS
watch her attorny's face when they were reading the verdic, she was stunned when the person was reading and said unaminous and then when she stumbled and then said not unaminious/hung she then smiled. I think they knew there was no verdict thats why no parents also. Why can't they let the new jury just watch the trial on the tv tape and all the jail cell interviews. why couldn't they sub with the alternates instead of hung.
Jodi Arias non verdict. that jury should be ashamed of them selves. This justice system is for the accused not the victim. They should have shown the jurors her interigation tapes and interviews. This crime was the worst thing I have ever seen. There should have been no doubt in their minds imposing the death penalty. This send a good message to criminals out there that they can get away with anything
I heard something interesting Nancy Grace said the other day that if JA gets life she will get out by age 55 + and do it again . I was an abused child until I left home at age 20. Never once did it ever enter my head to get revenge on my abusers , never once thought to harm them in any way only to mark my time and get away. I was a punching bag for both my alcoholic parents and I believe that you have to be wired a certain way to kill for whatever the reason I am sure if she does life and gets out she WILL do it again MMT
Why not getting away with the death penalty all together? It seems that no matter how cruel and brutal those crimes are, nobody get's it and if they get it, they still live for years and years with all those appeals which cost the state money.
And than nobody on a jury would have to make this hard decision. Death penalty for serial killers, ha!!! They make a deal and get life without parole. If anybody deserves death, it is Jody, but I would not want to make the decision. Why not giving her life without parole and let her work for food and shelter? Not giving TV interviews.
June 4 2013 5yr date of killing jury waiting on june4 then death row for Jodi